Behind the Scenes at The Survey School: in conversation with our Senior Tutors

To get the land surveyors we need in the future, we require the best and experienced to train them.  We are very lucky to have some fantastic tutors working for The Survey School.  Full and part-time, some working as tutors whilst also running their own successful surveying businesses.

We asked our Senior Tutors, Andrew Crumpler and Adam Ball, to tell us about a “typical” day – if there is such a thing – of a Survey School tutor.  These tutors shed light on their responsibilities, longer term projects and goals.

How does your day begin?

Andrew: I’m normally at The Survey School around 8am to gather the materials and equipment ready for the students who start at 9am.

Adam: I cycle into work which means the first thing I need after that is a strong black coffee!

How is your day structured?

Andrew: I spend most of the day teaching – and standing up! Mornings are spent teaching the theory and doing worked examples. The afternoons find us mostly outside on practical exercises. 

Adam: When not actively teaching, we’re marking student classwork, exams and assignments and writing reports, planning and preparing lessons and answering emails. Tutors also meet up to discuss plans for course content and share new ideas.

Andrew:  Marking student work is a time-consuming process. It’s important to ensure that our marking is consistent and fair across all blocks of our 2-year TSA Course.

What led you to working as a tutor for The Survey School?

Adam: After 15 years working as a land surveyor I spent another 15 working in technical support and training for one of the major equipment manufacturers. I discovered the joy of sharing my experience and the satisfaction of helping to improve companies’ workflows and utilisation. This is what led me to taking the step into teaching: to continue to help to improve the surveying industry by showing passion and imparting knowledge to the students.

Andrew: I came into teaching after nearly 30 years working as a land surveyor. Like Adam, I have always enjoyed sharing my love of surveying with others and encouraging younger surveyors in the work place. Teaching was a natural progression.

What can your past experience bring to The Survey School?

Adam: Learning can be dull for students without being able to refer to real world examples.  Past experience comes in very handy when students query the theory we’ve just covered or ask “Why do I need to know this?”, “When will I ever need it?”  The answer is that surveyors need to be able to solve problems in very dynamic situations and broadening their skill-set can help them resolve an issue which they otherwise may have struggled with. It’s good to see that lightbulb ‘Eureka!’ moment where a trainee suddenly understands the theory behind why their company insists on a certain workflow, for example.

Andrew: I have seen a lot of changes in equipment during my time, but the fundamentals of surveying do not change. The new equipment brings a lot of advantages, especially in the speed and ease of acquiring data, as well as the sheer volume of data we now collect.  However, without an understanding of the fundamentals, such as good geometry and the need for checking your work and redundant observations, it is easy for the novice surveyor to just write down the number on the screen without understanding if it is right or wrong. What experience brings, and what we teach the students, is to comprehend what the figures mean and to have an idea what the ballpark number should be, to avoid making silly mistakes. From experience we can teach where to look first if there is a problem and how to solve it.

What do you think are the important skills and qualities of a good tutor, how would you describe your approach?

Andrew: Good tutoring prepares Survey School students for handling complex problems out in the field. Tutors support students as they acquire critical thinking skills and an understanding of what they are measuring and what the measurement might be used for.  We encourage students to draw diagrams to illustrate the survey problem.  Most surveyors, including myself, are better with pictures than with words.  So if you can draw a good diagram you can do the maths.

All students work at different rates and come with different skills and experience. We encourage them to work effectively in a team, to learn from and to help their fellow students as well as learning and getting help from us. It is all part of the TSA Course.

Adam: Patience is a key quality for a tutor! All students learn and progress at different rates and it’s important to recognise this in order to be effective. I always try to make a connection between the theory and real-world applications. If the student can see the reason for the maths, they are far more likely to remember it. I’m also a big believer in making students recognise their own mistakes and correct it along the way. Students who learn to take their time will perform much better in real life work situations.

What do you like about tutoring?

Adam: I enjoy seeing the students’ confidence increasing over time, especially those who may have started the course with very little experience.

Andrew: It is encouraging the students, giving them the confidence in maths and seeing them understand the concepts you are explaining. The light bulb moment! I can see when they have put a lot of effort into their work and are really pleased with the results they have achieved.  It is interesting to hear of the many projects students are working on and to learn about some of the innovative techniques they employ on site. We can then pass these onto the other students and help improve the level of skill in the industry.

What are some of the most challenging situations you have faced as tutors?

Andrew: Sometimes students do not have the full support of their companies, particularly when it comes to being given the time or equipment needed undertake the course assignments. We encourage students to let us know if they are having problems so we can contact their employer, or arrange to team them up with other members of the class.

Adam: As Andrew says, unfortunately some companies don’t fully realise the importance of giving the student the freedom to attempt an individual assignment, as this is often where they will first apply the skills and methodologies they have learnt whilst in the classroom.

What does the future hold for the development of The Survey School Courses?

Adam: We will continue to add further aspects to the courses, as there are so many rapid advances in data capture techniques, such as mobile laser scanning and photogrammetry, which due to their ‘black box’ automated nature, many trainees are using without understanding how the principles of surveying should still be applied.

Andrew: I think that there is a great future as people are recognising the need to train up more skilled workers, particularly in construction.  The Survey School has a wide variety of courses with which surveyors can improve their knowledge and skills, something that all employers can benefit from.

Proudest tutoring moment?

Andrew: The student Awards Day is always a special time, when we get to celebrate students’ graduation from the TSA Surveying Course.  It is rewarding to see how proud the students are and to see them recognised for all the hard work they have put in, especially those students who have sponsored themselves.  

Adam: Being quite new to the role, it’s still to come! It was great to attend my first student awards day as a tutor last year at the British Motor Museum. Seeing the students enjoying the appreciation of the land surveying community and realising that they are an important part of that community is something I think will always give me a sense of pride that I have played a small part in.

Andrew: We have had some outstanding students over the years. It is always nice to hear how they are progressing in their careers and to know that we have played a small part in encouraging them on their way.  After all, the President of the TSA is a past Survey School student!

What do you enjoy doing when you’re not at The Survey School?

Adam: Outside work I enjoy spending time with my family, building a campervan and playing hockey at a steadily decreasing speed!

Andrew: I enjoy spending time with my family, walking on the Malvern Hills, doing a bit of photography or driving my old Land Rover.

To find out more about our tutors and the rest of our team, please visit https://www.surveyschool.org.uk/about-us/

To discovder more about TSA Surveying Course, please go to https://www.surveyschool.org.uk/the-course/

In conversation with Benjamin Brewster MCInstCES, Senior Engineer, TfL Land Survey

How did your interest in surveying as a career develop?

This was a happy accident. It was actually my mum who spotted a job advert in the local paper for something called an Assistant Land Surveyor (no experience necessary). After applying with no knowledge whatsoever, I was surprised to find myself in gainful employment alongside a fantastic team, undertaking surveys up and down the country. As my tolerance to the wind and rain developed, so did my interest in surveying. The balance between site and office suited me well, as did the technical side of the job, and knowing that the surveys I produced were fundamental in the design of a new road or infrastructure project instilled a sense of pride in the work I was doing.

What is a key memory from your time spent studying at The Survey School*?

Beyond sampling the cultural delights of Worcester, of which there were many, I would say a key memory was trying to undertake a practical exercise in the pouring rain after the river had burst its banks. It’s something that comes to mind any time I consider downing tools because of the weather! Of course it goes without saying that The Survey School wouldn’t have been the same without the fantastic staff and lecturers – particularly Frank Buckley and Andrew Crumpler, and my fellow students.

What was the most valuable lesson you learned from your time at The Survey School?

It took a while to realise the purpose of learning how to do all the jobs that we did in our day job manually, with only a calculator to help with the computations. We’d never have to actually do that in our jobs, of course, but I cannot express how useful it’s been in terms of solving problems in the field, and gaining a deeper understanding of why we do things the way we do them. I was definitely one of those people who’d convinced themselves that maths was a scary subject, and something I just wasn’t good at, but it was incredibly useful to learn the practical applications of these concepts. It’s helped me all through my career.

What is your role at TfL?

I’m a Senior Engineer in the Land Survey Team at Transport for London. I oversee survey work from conception to delivery for all stages of a project, from the surveys required for improving the network, through to final as-built surveys at completion. We do much more besides, but this is a relatively new role, and I am discovering more every day.

What has your journey been to your current role?

I began my career as an assistant surveyor at Atkins in Essex, during which time I attended The Survey School, became a junior surveyor, and then a surveyor. I later joined Laing O’Rourke as a senior civil engineering surveyor, which lead to me becoming lead surveyor for their newly formed monitoring department, working on some exciting projects including Crossrail (Elizabeth Line) and the Thames Tideway Tunnel. Following this, I joined the Hinkley Point C project as a principal surveyor, managing survey works on the construction of two nuclear reactors.

Five years of commuting back and forth between Somerset and London was plenty for me, and after finding an opportunity to join the survey team at Transport for London, I took on a new challenge much closer to home – which brings me to the present day.

What is it about your role that you enjoy and value most?

The most rewarding parts of my role have always been the ability to see your input, however small, on much larger projects, although as my career took me towards more supervisory and management roles, I have found a great deal of satisfaction from mentoring and supporting others through their own career journeys. This has “grown legs” over the past few years since taking a more active role in mentorship with the Chartered Institution of Civil Engineering Surveyors (CICES), and helping to set up the CICES Approved Development Scheme in TfL.

How would you describe your career in three words?

Varied, rewarding, worthwhile.

How do you encourage others to get involved in the surveying profession?

I am always ready to engage with people new to, or interested in the profession, and have volunteered at several apprenticeship events over the past few years to try and spread the word amongst those who might not have considered surveying before. Having said that, there is always more we can do as a whole within the industry to champion surveying as a career, and something I’m keen to do more of in the future.

If you could give your younger self career advice now, what would it be?

Much like the old saying about watching the pennies – concentrate on learning, building experience, seeking challenges, and helping others. The pounds will watch themselves (as difficult to believe as that may have been in the early years!)

Do you have any new/exciting projects you’re working on that you’re able to share?

I would probably have to say that working on the original and most iconic transportation network in the world – in my humble opinion – has to be pretty exciting, and there is of course always something “new” going on!

What has been your most memorable project to work on?

Hinkley Point C will rank highly here, for the pure scale of the project, and the technical challenges we seemed to face daily. Every morning arriving at site you would see something that wasn’t there the day before, much of which the surveyors in our team were directly involved in.

What has been your proudest career moment to date?

After winning my award for “Best Assignment” at The Survey School, you mean? I would have to say gaining membership of the Chartered Institution of Civil Engineering Surveyors was a career high, among many personal highlights.

*The Survey School is home to the TSA Surveying Course and is the UK’s only commercial training centre that provides training to the land survey profession which is accredited by The Chartered Institution of Civil Engineering Surveyors (CICES).

A new collaboration: teach the teacher

TSA Council held a series of Vision Days in 2022 and one of the key aims that was agreed to focus on was the vision that, ‘every young person should know about land surveying as a career’. Allied to The Survey Association’s investment in the creation of the Geospatial Apprenticeships, The Survey School has a well-deserved reputation for survey teaching, so it made sense to open this up to tutors and teachers across the UK who are delivering this apprenticeship.

The ‘Teach the Teacher’ initiative is fostering a valuable exchange, of both theoretical knowledge and practical techniques, by offering survey training to tutors at colleges across the UK offering the Level 3 Geospatial Survey Technician Apprenticeship.

Benefits on both sides for ‘teach the teacher’

Last week, tutors and lecturers from Riverside and Dudley Colleges were welcomed at The Survey School in Worcester to take part in TSA-funded levelling and total station courses.

By collaborating with the experienced surveying professionals and tutors at the school, lecturers discovered practical, real world applications of some fundamental surveying techniques and hands-on skills to enhance the delivery of their curriculum.

There are, of course, also the added benefits of networking opportunities, as attendees will have the chance to connect with like-minded professionals from colleges across the country.

Looking ahead

Alan Mansell, Manager of The Survey School, said, “As we look forward to hosting other colleges later this year, the opportunity to work with tutors from different institutions promises a more cohesive collective effort towards advancing surveying education and enabling a consistent approach across the apprenticeship training providers.”

Katie Holt, Business Development Manager of TSA, added, “For The Survey Association, we believe the apprenticeship will play a crucial role in shaping the future of the profession and attracting new talent into the geospatial surveying profession.”

To find out more, please contact Katie Holt at katie@tsa-uk.org.uk.

A former land surveyor, trainer and tech support expert has been appointed as a new tutor at The Survey School. Adam Ball has joined the staff team at The Survey School, based in Worcester, which provides practical survey training via the two year TSA Surveying Course and a range of short courses.

Land surveying and tech support experience

Adam worked as a land surveyor for 15 years at a variety of survey companies around the UK, mainly carrying out topographical measured surveys. Starting off as a Survey Assistant and working his way up to Senior Surveyor, he specialised in GNSS control networks and undertook a lot of work for the Environment Agency. He was then appointed as a trainer and tech support for Leica Geosystems, where he worked for the next 15 years across the UK and Ireland.

Adam says,

“Now I’m at The Survey School, I’m finding it really interesting to see what is on the syllabus and how it is being taught in order to ensure the TSA Surveying Course is able to keep abreast of advancing technology in the profession. For example, we are currently introducing more emphasis on terrestrial laser scanning as it is an increasingly important part of modern survey methodology.

“It is good to see such a range of different experiences and backgrounds of students attending the surveying course at The Survey School and the progression of past students is very impressive too.”

Commenting on Adam’s appointment as tutor, Manager at The Survey School, Alan Mansell, says,

“Adam’s experience, both as a land surveyor and as a technical expert, means he is ideally placed to deliver exactly what students attending The Survey School need – a perfect combination of professional expertise and real lived experience. We are delighted to have Adam on board as part of our team.”

The Survey School is home to the TSA Surveying Course and is the UK’s only commercial training centre that provides training to the land survey profession which is accredited by The Chartered Institution of Civil Engineering Surveyors (CICES).